Not checking their facts first.

[reynardo]

Spam. I know it's spam.

i might have to leave this country if i dont get married. im a hot blonde from europe. check out my homepage and email me if you think you might be a candidate. ill do anything, and i mean anything.........

I'm amused, though, because:

a) It's almost certainly from someone in the USA

b) It's a female

c) Even if I were to divorce my beloved and go marry her, I'm sure same-sex marriages aren't legal in most states.

Yeah, I know they just send out to everyone. I'll try not to be offended that they weren't personally askimg me.

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[turnberryknkn.livejournal.com]

(grin) Sort of like all those breast enlargement e-mails I keep getting. :-)

[shadow-5tails.livejournal.com]

She did say she'd do anything...

Write to her and ask her whether she's willing to participate in a long-distance, bigamous marriage with you, since she did send you the e-mail... I mean, she wouldn't have sent it if she hadn't meant it, surely? *innocent look*

[ambitious-wench.livejournal.com]

Our beloved Rey enumerates:

"... c) Even if I were to divorce my beloved and go marry her, I'm sure same-sex marriages aren't legal in most states."

Darling, make that NO states recognise same-gender marriages. The operative word is "marriage". Vermont offers "Civil Unions", but they are not recognised in any other states, and can be challenged by the deceased's family in court. Some municipalities offer domestic parnership registration, but that is NOT marriage.

No country in the world offers same-sex MARRIAGE. They may offer virtual equality trade-offs, but they are NOT the same.

Can any remember "Equal but Separate"?

*That* is what I have to deal with. I dread what bullshit Techi's father will pull if she dies before I do. I know that the bastard will challenge me for the house and her possessions. Most of which were obtained since we got together.

And I have no legal recourse. I can ONLY hope I die first. I have no family to put her through that.

Sorry. This is a subject near and dear to my heart, so to speak.
Edie.

[reynardo.livejournal.com]

I dread what bullshit Techi's father will pull if she dies before I do. I know that the bastard will challenge me for the house and her possessions. Most of which were obtained since we got together.

Are there no legal contracts the two of you can sign together that make you a legal "partnership" (in the business sense) and able to clear these facts before they become a problem?

Sort of like the pre-nup that het couples sign, because quite often the person with the most lawyers wins anyway.

It's what gay friends of mine have done, especially when one or both were HIV positive. It meant a certain greedy family couldn't dictate the funeral or grab the inheritance.

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[ambitious-wench.livejournal.com]

Doesn't always work over here, Rey. The judge had final say, and if the judge is homophobic, the family wins. Then it's a long battle to challenge it.

Ultimately, I would possibly win. But the idea is that I should not have to go through that in the FIRST place. Dunno about down there, but up here, surviving spouses aren't challenged successfully in a court of law for the property of the deceased.

Anna Nicole Smith is a prime example. She was not mentioned in any of her billionare husband's wills and she STILL got $450 million dollars. That's because she was legally married to him.

My only hope is that he drops dead first. Not bloody likely, the bastard is spiteful enough to out live us. Whineing all the while about this and that imagined ailment.

Scrooge had nothing on him.

E.

So call it a business partnership.

[reynardo.livejournal.com]

And have the goods drawn up by business lawyers rather than family law guys.

There are very strict rules about business partnerships, esp. if one partner dies and the other has first right to everything that's listed. THen you list the house, the goods, etc.

I think that works, anyway. Just an idea.

Re: So call it a business partnership.

[ambitious-wench.livejournal.com]

Rey,

All well and fine, but consider this: it can still be challenged in a court of law, and the surviving partner could be brought up on charges of tax fraud. Businesses do not have to pay as much tax as individuals, and so the contract could be construed as tax evasion. And yes, jail time is not uncommon for tax evasion.

The point I am making is this: Same gender relationships should not have to go through the expense of dubious legal mumbo-jumbo to receive the same benifits that het couples get.

I *know* George is going to challenge me, regardless of what contracts Techi and I have in place. And even if I win, I will have to go through the agony of a court battle while I am grieving for the death of my lover.

This is something that you or your beloved will probably not have to suffer, and for that I am glad. But it could so easily be stopped by making gay marriages legal. Not civil unions, not domestic partnership registration, MARRIAGE.

Tech and I are not a business partnership. We are not going through a phase. We are two adult woemn who acknowledge our sexual orientation and have made a home for ourselves in a hostile world. Our relationship is not one wit less valid than any other couples.

Ok, I'll said my peace. I'll get down off my soap box. Thanks for letting me vent, Rey.

Edie.